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Desire, meaning, and virtue: The Socratic account of poetry.

机译:欲望,意义和美德:苏格拉底对诗歌的描述。

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My thesis takes another look at the discussion of poetry in Plato's early dialogues (which I take to express the views of the historical Socrates). I argue that Socrates does not believe poets are divinely inspired; rather, his treatment of poetry must be approached from the point of view of two key Socratic concerns: the nature of desire (as expressed in the Protagoras and Gorgias), and the distinction between techne (craft or science) and empeiria (knack) in the Gorgias. For, both the theory of desire and the dismissal of certain practices from the realm of techne proper (e.g., oratory, cookery, poetry), point to a radical stance on the nature of psychological states---one that does not bode well for the value of poetry.; All desire that leads to---and so explains---action is for our own real good (our happiness) and not for the apparent good. So when we act in error about our good, we do not desire to do what we do (hence 'no one errs willingly'). Thus, we don't know what we specifically desire until we know what is truly good for us. There are no irrational desires, and no other incommensurable rational desires that can lead us to perform any specific action. So, to live well, we need knowledge of our good; and this is all there is to virtue.; Furthermore, Socrates treats all of our mental states like desire: we cannot have knowledge of pleasures, beliefs, or intentions without knowledge of the reality towards which those mental states are directed. The problem, then, with "knacks" (e.g., oratory, cookery, poetry) is that they do not require knowledge of the truth about their subject matter: the beliefs, pleasures, and intentions of the people they seek to persuade or gratify. Thus, e.g., Ion's struggles in the Ion, and Socrates' interpretation of Simonides in the Protagoras all point in the same direction: the study of poetry has no value if it is not at the same time a study of the truth. Yet, only Socratic dialogue, or dialectic, can hope to make real progress towards the knowledge we desire.
机译:我的论文再来看柏拉图早期对话中对诗歌的讨论(我以此来表达历史上的苏格拉底的观点)。我认为苏格拉底不相信诗人是上帝的启发。相反,他对诗歌的处理必须从两个主要的苏格拉底关注点出发:欲望的本质(如Protagoras和Gorgias所表达),以及技术(工艺或科学)与经验主义(诀窍)之间的区别。 Gorgias。因为,欲望理论和对某些习俗从技术领域(例如,演讲,烹饪,诗歌)的撤消,都指向对心理状态本质的激进立场,这对人们来说并不是一个好兆头。诗歌的价值。导致(并因此解释)行动的所有欲望都是为了我们自己的真正利益(我们的幸福),而不是为了表面上的利益。因此,当我们为自己的利益采取错误行动时,我们不希望做我们所做的事情(因此“没有人会犯错误”)。因此,直到我们知道真正对我们有好处的时候,我们才知道自己特别想要什么。没有非理性的欲望,也没有其他无与伦比的理性欲望可以使我们采取任何特定的行动。因此,要过上好生活,我们需要了解自己的优点;这就是美德的全部。此外,苏格拉底将我们所有的心理状态都像欲望一样对待:如果不了解这些心理状态所针对的现实,我们就不会拥有享乐,信念或意图的知识。因此,“敲门”(例如,演讲,烹饪,诗歌)的问题在于,他们不需要了解有关其主题的真相:他们想要说服或满足的人们的信念,享乐和意图。因此,例如离子的挣扎和苏格拉底在《 Protagoras》中对西蒙尼德斯的解释都指向同一个方向:如果不是同时研究真理,那么诗歌研究就没有价值。但是,只有苏格拉底式的对话或辩证法才能希望在我们所需要的知识上取得真正的进步。

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  • 作者

    Uzgiris, Rimas Edward.;

  • 作者单位

    The University of Wisconsin - Madison.;

  • 授予单位 The University of Wisconsin - Madison.;
  • 学科 Literature Classical.; Philosophy.
  • 学位 Ph.D.
  • 年度 2005
  • 页码 219 p.
  • 总页数 219
  • 原文格式 PDF
  • 正文语种 eng
  • 中图分类 世界文学;哲学理论;
  • 关键词

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