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Response to formal comment on Myhrvold (2016) submitted by Griebeler and Werner (2017)

机译:Griebeler和Werner(2017)对Myhrvold(2016)的正式评论的回应

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Griebeler and Werner offer a formal comment on Myhrvold, 2016 defending the conclusions of Werner and Griebeler, 2014. Although the comment criticizes several aspects of methodology in Myhrvold, 2016, all three papers concur on a key conclusion: the metabolism of extant endotherms and ectotherms cannot be reliably classified using growth-rate allometry, because the growth rates of extant endotherms and ectotherms overlap. A key point of disagreement is that the 2014 paper concluded that despite this general case, one can nevertheless classify dinosaurs as ectotherms from their growth rate allometry. The 2014 conclusion is based on two factors: the assertion (made without any supporting arguments) that the comparison with dinosaurs must be restricted only to extant sauropsids, ignoring other vertebrate groups, and that extant sauropsid endotherm and ectotherm growth rates in a data set studied in the 2014 work do not overlap. The Griebeler and Werner formal comment presents their first arguments in support of the restriction proposition. In this response I show that this restriction is unsupported by established principles of phylogenetic comparison. In addition, I show that the data set studied in their 2014 work does show overlap, and that this is visible in one of its figures. I explain how either point effectively invalidates the conclusion of their 2014 paper. I also address the other methodological criticisms of Myhrvold 2016, and find them unsupported.
机译:Griebeler和Werner对Myhrvold,2016提出了正式评论,捍卫了Werner和Griebeler,2014的结论。尽管该评论批评了Myhrvold,2016的方法论的几个方面,但所有三篇论文都得出了一个关键结论:现存的吸热和外热的代谢。无法使用增长率异速生长法可靠地分类,因为现存的吸热和放热的增长率重叠。意见分歧的一个关键点是,2014年的论文得出结论,尽管有这种一般情况,但仍可以根据它们的生长速率异同将恐龙归类为等温线。 2014年的结论基于两个因素:断言(没有任何支持性论据),与恐龙的比较必须仅限于现存的蜥脚类恐龙,而忽略其他脊椎动物类群;以及在研究的数据集中现存的蜥脚类动物的吸热和外生增长率在2014年工作不重叠。 Griebeler和Werner的正式评论提出了支持限制主张的第一个论点。在此回复中,我表明,系统发育比较的既定原理不支持这种限制。此外,我证明了他们在2014年工作中研究的数据集确实显示出重叠,并且在其中一张图中可见。我解释了这两点如何有效地使他们的2014年论文结论无效。我还解决了Myhrvold 2016的其他方法学批评,并发现它们不受支持。

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