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We thank Emilio Servera and Jesus Sancho for their comments on our study but have to strongly disagree with several of the points that they raise. The ethical justification for this randomised controlled trial was clearly explained in the paper and eloquently supported by the paper referenced. This study did not deprivepatients of non-invasive ventilation; on the contrary a much greater number received non-invasive ventilation than would otherwise have been the case. The study was done in a centre where patients with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and respiratory compromise were not routinely referred for non-invasive ventilation. Furthermore, the supervising neurologist was at liberty to refer patients in the standard care arm for non-invasive ventilation when this would have been their normal practice. It has been suggested the trial should have been stopped early. Such action may have resulted in the study failing to answer the questions it was designed to address, negating the contribution of all patients who participated. This would have been both inappropriate and unethical. The data supporting the enthusiastic application of non-invasive ventilation in patients with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis by a minority of clinicians was presented in the paper (reference 5 in the paper). Despite several positive retrospective and non-randomised prospective studies, also cited in the paper, and the opinion of experts, the current position in the UK and other countries is that few patients with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis receive non-invasive ventilation. In our survey of UK practice, we found that 5-5% of patients under review received non-invasive ventilation (2-6-3-5% of all patients with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis). Of 265 neurologists, 172 had not referred any patients for non-invasive ventilation in the preceding year, whereas three neurologists made 30% of all referrals nationally.There is similar variation in practice in the USA. Data from randomised controlled trials are more persuasive in changing practice than lower grades of evidence (cohort studies and expert opinion), and we are surprised by suggestions to the contrary. In common with the Motor Neurone Disease Association, we strongly believe this study will influence the practice of clinicians who in their present practice refer few, if any, patients with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis for non-invasive ventilation.
机译:我们感谢Emilio Servera和Jesus Sancho对我们的研究发表的意见,但必须强烈不同意他们提出的几点。该随机对照试验的伦理依据在论文中得到了明确解释,并得到所引用论文的有力支持。这项研究没有剥夺患者无创通气的机会。相反,接受无创通气的人数要多于其他情况。这项研究是在一个中心地区进行的,该中心的肌萎缩性侧索硬化症和呼吸困难患者通常不接受无创通气治疗。此外,当这是他们的常规做法时,主管神经科医生可以自由地将标准护理部门的患者转诊至无创通气。有人建议应早日停止审判。这种行为可能导致研究未能回答其设计要解决的问题,从而抵消了所有参与研究的患者的贡献。这本来是不适当的,也是不道德的。该论文提供了支持少数临床医生对无肌通气在肌萎缩性侧索硬化患者中进行积极应用的数据(该论文的参考文献5)。尽管在论文中还引用了一些积极的回顾性和非随机的前瞻性研究,以及专家的意见,但英国和其他国家/地区的当前立场是,很少有肌萎缩性侧索硬化患者接受无创通气。在我们对英国实践的调查中,我们发现接受审查的患者中有5-5%接受了无创通气(所有肌萎缩性侧索硬化症患者中有2-6-3-5%)。在265位神经科医生中,有172位在前一年未转诊无创通气患者,而三位神经科医生在全美转诊的患者中占30%。与较低等级的证据(队列研究和专家意见)相比,来自随机对照试验的数据在实践改变中更具说服力,相反的建议令我们感到惊讶。与运动神经元疾病协会一样,我们坚信这项研究将影响临床医生的临床实践,在目前的实践中,临床医生很少(如果有的话)将肌萎缩性侧索硬化症患者用于无创通气。

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