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Discussion of ''Classical Extreme Value Model and Prediction of Extreme Winds,'' by Janos Galambos and Nicholas Macri

机译:讨论“经典极值模型和极端风预测”,作者:Janos Galambos 和 Nicholas Macri

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We would like to start our discussion by correcting three errors by Galambos and Macri (GM), of material from Simiu and Heckert (1996) (hereinafter referred to as SH).1. Galambos and Macri write: Simiu and Heckert ''report that the best fit for most stations is gamma=12, which would yield c=-1/gamma=-0.085 ... (see Table 1 in SH).'' In fact Table 1 in SH states that for most stations gamma <=12, i.e., c<=-0.085, not c=-0.085.2. More importantly, SH specifically explain that the samples with average 8-day epochs on which the estimates of Table 1 are based are "not likely to be a sound basis for inferences on extremes," and that it is therefore advisable to ''let the tails speak for themselves," i.e., to use the peaks over thresh-old (POT) approach. Winds that occur during 8-day epochs are, in their vast majority, different meteorologically from winds associated with extreme speeds. Analyzing samples that include both winds occurring in storms associated with extremes and winds such as the morning breeze is as likely to be misleading as analyzing samples of the height of the members of a kindergarten class that include the heights of both students and teachers. Differences between the estimates of Table 1 and POT estimates are therefore attributable to inadequacies of the samples on which Table 1 is based, rather than to the superiority of one estimator over another, as suggested by GM. Hence, the contradiction in the paper by SH to which GM allude does in fact not exist.3. GM state: ''On p. 542 the authors (i.e., SH) themselves point out that the data at nine stations do not support their recommended choice c=-0.25."
机译:首先,我们想纠正Galambos和Macri(GM)对Simiu和Heckert(1996)(以下简称SH)的材料的三个错误。Galambos 和 Macri 写道: Simiu 和 Heckert “报告说,大多数台站的最佳拟合度是 gamma=12,这将产生 c=-1/gamma=-0.085 ......(见SH表1)。事实上,SH中的表1指出,对于大多数台站,伽马<=12,即c<=-0.085,而不是c=-0.085.2。更重要的是,SH特别解释说,表1的估计所依据的具有平均8天周期的样本“不太可能成为推断极端情况的可靠基础”,因此建议“让尾巴自己说话”,即使用峰值超过thresh-old(POT)方法。在绝大多数情况下,在8天周期内发生的风在气象上与与极端速度相关的风不同。分析包括与极端事件相关的风暴中发生的风和晨风等风的样本,与分析包括学生和教师身高在内的幼儿园班级成员身高样本一样可能具有误导性。因此,表1的估计数与POT估计数之间的差异可归因于表1所依据的样本的不足,而不是像GM所建议的那样,一个估计数优于另一个估计数。 因此,SH在论文中提到的GM所指的矛盾实际上并不存在。GM 声明:“在第 542 页,作者(即 SH)自己指出,九个站点的数据不支持他们推荐的选择 c=-0.25。

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