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Reply from authors re: Michel Bolla. Adjuvant or immediate external irradiation after radical prostatectomy with pelvic lymph node dissection for high-risk prostate cancer: A multidisciplinary decision. Eur Urol 2013;63:1009-10

机译:作者回复Re:Michel Bolla。 辅助或立即外部辐照在激进前列腺切除术后高危前列腺癌的盆腔淋巴结解剖:多学科决策。 EUR UROL 2013; 63:1009-10

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We read with great interest the comments by Dr. Bolla about our recently published article. We totally agree that the retrospective nature of our cohort implied several limitations, such as the lack of pathologic review and of standardized adjuvant treatment protocols. Such confoun-ders certainly may be a source of biases. However, one might argue that the lack of a systematic, centralized pathologic review and the consequent potential heterogeneity in Gleason grading attribution among institutions might also influence long-term analyses of previous protracted multicenter prospective randomized trials. These variations over time might partially undermine the applicability of such results to contemporary patients. Nevertheless, there is no dispute that randomized studies do remain the main pillars of evidence-based medicine. However, retrospective reports, including our study, certainly can be considered hypothesis generating, and they definitely warrant consideration for the design of future prospective randomized trials. Let us give an example. The long-term results of the European Organisation for Research and Treatment of Cancer (EORTC) study randomizing men with pNO, Rl, and/or pT3 disease to either adjuvant radiotherapy (ART) or observation did not show any difference in favor of ART in terms of patient survival. However, such disappointing results are actually not surprising based on currently available data evaluating the long-term survival of patients treated with radical prostatectomy (RP). For example, a 60-yr-old patient with pT3a disease and Gleason score 4 + 3, treated with RP alone, has approximately a 3% risk of dying of prostate cancer (PCa) at 15 yr, even in the presence of positive surgical margins. For the same patient with pT2 disease and positive surgical margins, the risk of dying of PCa is virtually nil even at 20 yr after surgery.
机译:我们非常感兴趣地欣赏Bolla博士关于我们最近发表的文章的评论。我们完全同意我们的队列的回顾性质暗示了几个局限性,例如缺乏病理审查和标准化的佐剂治疗方案。这种confoun-der肯定可能是偏见的源泉。然而,人们可能争辩说,缺乏系统,集中的病理审查以及在机构之间的GLEASES的分级归属中的随之而来的潜在的异质性可能还会影响前一突出的多中心前瞻性随机试验的长期分析。这些变化随着时间的推移可能部分破坏当代患者的这种结果的适用性。尽管如此,随机研究确实仍然存在循证医学的主要支柱。然而,追溯报告包括我们的研究,当然可以被视为假设产生,他们肯定需要考虑未来的预期随机试验的设计。让我们举个例子。欧洲研究和治疗癌症组织(EORTC)的长期结果将随机化与PNO,RL和/或PT3疾病进行辅助放射治疗(ART)或观察结果并未显示出艺术的任何差异患者生存条款。然而,这种令人失望的结果实际上并不令人惊讶,基于目前可用的数据,评估用自由基前列腺切除术(RP)治疗的患者的长期存活。例如,即使在阳性外科的存在下,单独用RP处理的PT3A疾病和GROISON评分4 + 3的60岁患者患有RP的患者患有大约3%的风险边缘。对于具有PT2疾病和阳性手术边缘的同一患者,即使在手术后20年,PCA死亡的风险几乎是含氮。

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