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Response to “Comparing Fruit and Oranges: Response to Philip A. Ringstrom” by Robert D. Stolorow and George E. Atwood

机译:Robert D. Stolorow和George E. Atwood对“比较水果和橙子:对Philip A. Ringstrom”的回应

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Because they see their Intersubjective Systems theory as an “instance” of the larger category of Relational psychoanalysis, Stolorow and Atwood claim that it is “logically incoherent” to compare their theory with Relational psychoanalysis in the manner done in the symposium (Volume 20, No. 2, 2010. pp. 195-250). Their sweeping dismissal of the symposium on the basis of what they refer to as a “category mistake” makes me wonder if they even read the five articles in it. Had they done so, they would have had to reckon with their argument being exactly the opposite of that of a key defender of their theory (Jacobs, 20101. Jacobs, L. 2010. Truth or what matters: Commentary on paper by Philip A. Ringstrom.. Psychoanalytic Dialogues, 20: 224-230. [Taylor & Francis Online]View all references) who argues that Relational Psychoanalysis should be seen as a subset of Intersubjective Systems theory. The fact that Stolorow and Atwood employ ideas from philosophy that are exceedingly hard to keep straight—even among themselves—is why in my reply to the symposium discussants, I stated that arguments regarding “category mistakes”, “levels of abstraction” (e.g. “explanatory versus phenomenology”) and so forth are at best confusing and at worse, specious. Meanwhile, given that this comparison symposium follows in the footsteps of their own critique of Relational psychoanalysis, their efforts to cast doubt on it are not only poorly argued, they flagrantly are transparent.View full textDownload full textRelated var addthis_config = { ui_cobrand: "Taylor & Francis Online", services_compact: "citeulike,netvibes,twitter,technorati,delicious,linkedin,facebook,stumbleupon,digg,google,more", pubid: "ra-4dff56cd6bb1830b" }; Add to shortlist Link Permalink http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/10481885.2010.514832
机译:因为他们认为主体间系统理论是关系精神分析的大类中的“实例”,所以斯托洛罗和阿特伍德声称以这种方式进行的将他们的理论与关系精神分析进行比较在逻辑上是“不连贯的”。座谈会(第20卷,第2期,2010年。第195-250页)。他们以所谓的“类别错误”为由,大范围地撤消了座谈会,这使我想知道他们是否阅读了其中的五篇文章。如果他们这样做了,他们将不得不认为他们的论点与他们的理论的主要捍卫者的论点正好相反(Jacobs,20101。Jacobs,L.2010。真相或重要:Philip A.在纸上的评论。 Ringstrom .. Psychoanalytic Dialogues,20:224-230。[Taylor&Francis Online]查看所有参考文献,他认为关系型精神分析应被视为主体间系统理论的子集。斯托洛罗和阿特伍德采用的哲学思想极其难以维系-即使在彼此之间也是如此-这就是为什么在我对专题讨论会讨论者的答复中,我指出了有关“类别错误”,“抽象级别(例如“解释性与现象学”)等等充其量是令人困惑的,而更糟的是似是而非。同时,鉴于此比较研讨会遵循了他们自己对关系精神分析的批评,他们对此提出质疑的努力不仅争论不休,而且公然是透明的。查看全文下载全文相关的var addthis_config = {ui_cobrand:“ Taylor &Francis Online”,services_compact:“ citeulike,netvibes,twitter,technorati,delicious,linkedin,facebook,stumbleupon,digg,google,更多”,发布号:“ ra-4dff56cd6bb1830b”};添加到候选列表链接永久链接http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/10481885.2010.514832

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