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首页> 外文期刊>Atmospheric research >Reply to comment by Ben-Zvi, A., D. Rosenfeld and A. Givati on the paper: Levin, Z., N. Halfon and P. Alpert, 'Reassessment of rain experiments and operations in Israel including synoptic considerations,' Atmos. Res. 97,513-525. DOI: 10.1016/j.atmosres.2010.06.011
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Reply to comment by Ben-Zvi, A., D. Rosenfeld and A. Givati on the paper: Levin, Z., N. Halfon and P. Alpert, 'Reassessment of rain experiments and operations in Israel including synoptic considerations,' Atmos. Res. 97,513-525. DOI: 10.1016/j.atmosres.2010.06.011

机译:答复Ben-Zvi,A.,D。Rosenfeld和A.Givati在论文上的评论:Levin,Z.,N。Halfon和P.Alpert,“重新评估以色列的雨水试验和雨水作业,包括天气因素,” Atmos 。 Res。 97,513-525。 DOI:10.1016 / j.atmosres.2010.06.011

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Levin et al. (2010; hereafter LHA) (Levin, Z., Halfon, N., Alpert, P., 2010. Reassessment of rain experiments and operations in Israel including synoptic considerations. Atmos. Res. 97,513-525. DOI:10.1016/j.atmosres.2010.06.011.), reanalyzed the results of the operational seeding in northern Israel between 1975 and 2007 and the preceding Israel 2 cloud seeding experiment (1969-1975) and concluded that there is no net increase in precipitation over the target areas. Our analysis revealed that a synoptic bias during Israel 2 is one of the reasons for the apparent positive effect of seeding in the northern target area and the negative effect in the southern area both of which disappeared in the following experiment in the south (Israel 3; 1975-1995) and the operational seeding in the north. Ben-Zvi et al. (2010;hereafter BRG) criticized our paper primarily on the ground that we did not consider the positive results of Israel 1 experiment (1960-1967). It should be noted that in Israel 1 different seeding lines were used from those in both Israel 2 and the operational period. In addition, its raw data is not accessible anymore for reanalysis. Furthermore, Israel 2 had been designed as a confirmatory cross-over experiment to Israel 1 and failed to reproduce its promising results with double ratio (DR) of -1.00, namely, zero rainfall enhancements. The same DR values were also found in Israel 3 and in the operational seeding. Therefore, because of the differences in the two experiments, the lack of access to the raw data and the disappointing results of the confirmatory experiment, we decided to concentrate our analysis on the more recent seeding activities. The attempt by BRG to explain the reduction of the DR to -1.00 in the operational seeding period by the suppression due to pollution have been disproved by Alpert et al. (2008, 2009) and also fail to explain the sharp decline of the target/control ratio right at the beginning of the operational seeding period when the lucky draw in this area came to its end (see LHA).
机译:Levin等。 (2010;此后为LHA)(Levin,Z.,Halfon,N.,Alpert,P.,2010.重新评估以色列的雨水试验和作业,包括天气因素)。Atmos。Res。97,513-525。DOI:10.1016 / j。 atmosres.2010.06.011。),重新分析了1975年至2007年期间以色列北部和之前进行的以色列2云种试验(1969-1975年)的实际播种结果,并得出结论,目标地区的降水量没有净增加。我们的分析表明,以色列2期的天气偏向是在北部目标地区播种明显产生积极影响而在南部地区产生负面影响的原因之一,这两个原因在随后的南部实验中均消失了(以色列3;以色列; 1975-1995年)和北部的可播种种子。 Ben-Zvi等。 (2010;以后称为BRG)批评我们的论文主要是因为我们没有考虑“以色列1号”实验(1960-1967)的积极结果。应当指出,在以色列1中,使用了与以色列2中和运营期不同的种子行。此外,其原始数据已不再可用于重新分析。此外,以色列2被设计为对以色列1的验证性交叉实验,但未能再现其令人鼓舞的结果,即双比率(DR)为-1.00,即零降雨增加。在以色列3和业务播种中也发现了相同的DR值。因此,由于两个实验的差异,无法访问原始数据以及验证实验的结果令人失望,我们决定将分析重点放在最近的播种活动上。 BRPER试图解释由于污染造成的抑制作用,在播种期将DR降低至-1.00的尝试已被Alpert等人证明。 (2008年,2009年),并且也无法解释在目标播种期开始时该区域的幸运抽奖结束时目标/控制比率的急剧下降(参见LHA)。

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