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Comment on “Formation of chenier plain of the Donana marshland (SW Spain): Observations and geomorphic model” by A. Rodriguez-Ramirez and C.M. Yanez-Camacho [Marine Geology 254 (2008) 187–196]

机译:A. Rodriguez-Ramirez和C.M.撰写的“ Donana沼泽地(法国西南部)雪尼尔平原的形成:观测和地貌模型”评论Yanez-Camacho [海洋地质254(2008)187–196]

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The application of the regional marine ~(14)C reservoir effect (ΔR) to obtain an accurate calibration of conventional marine shell ~(14)C dates requires prior research concerning the oceanographic conditions and the ΔR of that region. Rodriguez-Ramirez and Yanez-Camacho [A. Rodriguez-Ramirez, C.M. Yanez-Camacho, Formation of chenier plain of the Donana marshland (SW Spain): Observations and geomorphic model, Marine Geology 254 (2008) 187–196] and afterwards A. Rodriguez-Ramirez, J.A. Morales, J. Borrego and E.G. San Miguel in a reply [A. Rodriguez-Ramirez, J.A. Morales, J. Borrego, E.G. San Miguel, Reply to the comment on “Formation of chenier plain of the Donana marshland (SW Spain): Observations and geomorphic model” by A. Rodriguez-Ramirez and C.M. Yanez-Camacho [Marine Geology 254 (2008) 187–196], Marine Geology 263 (2009) 123–125] to the comment by J. Rodriguez-Vidal, F. Ruiz and L.M. Caceres on the paper mentioned above [J. Rodriguez-Vidal, F. Ruiz, L. M. Caceres, Comment on “Formation of chenier plain of the Donana marshland (SW Spain): Observations and geomorphic model” by A. Rodriguez-Ramirez, C.M. Yanez-Camacho [Marine Geology 254 (2008) 187–196], Marine Geology 263 (2009) 120–122] use, in both cases, not only incorrect ΔR values for the calibration of ~(14)C dates obtained from shell samples collected from the east coast of the Gulf of Cadiz, but they also confuse the ΔR concept with that of R(t), the 14C reservoir age. Because the misunderstanding of these concepts by these authors and, in the first case, also their failure to take into account the ΔR values obtained by us (and already published) from the east coast of Gulf of Cadiz, all the calibrated dates presented either in the first paper or in the reply cannot be accepted. Here I present a new calibrated dataset using accurate ΔR values and I recommend that the conclusions obtained by Rodriguez-Ramirez and their collaborators be revised, as J. Rodriguez-Vidal, F. Ruiz and L.M. Caceres proposed in their comment.
机译:利用区域海洋〜(14)C储层效应(ΔR)来获得常规海洋贝壳〜(14)C日期的准确校准,需要有关该区域的海洋学条件和ΔR的先前研究。 Rodriguez-Ramirez和Yanez-Camacho [A.罗德里格斯·拉米雷斯(C.M.) Yanez-Camacho,Donana沼泽地(中国西班牙)雪尼尔平原的形成:观测和地貌模型,《海洋地质》 254(2008)187–196],其后是A. Rodriguez-Ramirez,J.A。 Morales,J.Borrego和E.G. San Miguel的回复[A.罗德里格斯·拉米雷斯(J.A.)莫拉莱斯(Morales),博雷戈(J. San Miguel,对A. Rodriguez-Ramirez和C.M.的评论“ Donana沼泽地的谢尼尔平原的形成(西班牙西南部):观测和地貌模型”的评论。 Yanez-Camacho [海洋地质254(2008)187–196;海洋地质263(2009)123–125] – J. Rodriguez-Vidal,F。Ruiz和L.M. Caceres对上述论文的评论[J. Rodriguez-Vidal,F。Ruiz,L.M。Caceres,A。Rodriguez-Ramirez,C.M。发表的评论“ Donana沼泽地谢尼尔平原的形成(西班牙西南):观测和地貌模型”。 Yanez-Camacho [海洋地质254(2008)187–196,海洋地质263(2009)120–122]在两种情况下,不仅使用不正确的ΔR值来校准从壳样品中获得的〜(14)C日期,收集自加的斯湾东海岸,但他们也将ΔR概念与14 C油藏年龄R(t)混淆。由于这些作者对这些概念的误解,并且在第一种情况下,还没有考虑到我们从加的斯湾东海岸获得(并已发表)的ΔR值,因此所有校准日期均在第一篇论文或回复中的内容不被接受。在这里,我提出了一个使用准确ΔR值的新校准数据集,并且我建议对Rodriguez-Ramirez及其合作者所获得的结论进行修正,就像J. Rodriguez-Vidal,F.Ruiz和L.M. Caceres在评论中所提出的那样。

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