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Comment on 'Comparisons with analytical solutions from Khvorostyanov and Curry (2007) on the critical droplet radii and supersaturations of CCN with insoluble fractions' by Kokkola et al. (2008)

机译:Kokkola等人评论“与Khvorostyanov和Curry(2007)的分析液滴的临界液滴半径和CCN的过饱和度的比较”。 (2008年)

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Analytical solutions for the critical radii and supersaturations of the cloud condensation nuclei (CCN) with insoluble fractions were derived by Khvorostyanov and Curry (2007, hereafter KC07). These solutions generalize Kohler's solutions for an arbitrary soluble fraction of CCN, and have two limiting cases: large soluble fraction (Kohler's original solution); and a new "low soluble fraction" limit. Similar solutions were found subsequently by Kokkola et al. (2008, hereafter Kok08); however, Kok08 used the approximation of an ideal and dilute solution, while KC07 used more accurate assumptions that account for nonideality of solutions. Kok08 found a large discrepancy with KC07 in the critical supersaturations. It is shown that the major discrepancy with KC07 found in Kok08 was caused by the simple mistake in Kok08, where comparison was made not with the general solution from KC07, but with the Kohler's solution or with some unknown quantity, not even with the "low soluble fraction" limit. If general solutions from the two works are compared, the equations from Kok08 mostly repeat the equations from KC07, except that Kok08 use the ideal dilute solution approximation. If the mistake in Kok08 is corrected, then the differences in the critical radii and supersaturations do not exceed 16-18%, which characterizes the errors of the ideal dilute solution approximation. If the Kok08 scheme is modified following KC07 to account for the non-ideality of solution, then the difference with KC07 does not exceed 0.4-1%.
机译:Khvorostyanov和Curry(2007,以下称KC07)得出了具有不溶级分的云凝结核(CCN)的临界半径和过饱和度的解析解。这些解决方案推广了科勒对任意CCN可溶级分的解决方案,并有两种局限性:大可溶级分(Kohler的原始解);以及新的“低可溶性分数”限制。随后,Kokkola等人发现了类似的解决方案。 (2008年,以下称Kok08);然而,Kok08使用理想和稀溶液的近似值,而KC07使用更精确的假设来解决溶液的非理想性。 Kok08在临界过饱和度中发现与KC07有很大差异。结果表明,在Kok08中发现的与KC07的主要差异是由Kok08中的简单错误引起的,该错误不是与KC07的一般解决方案进行比较,而是与科勒的解决方案或未知数量进行比较,甚至与“低可溶部分”的限制。如果将这两个工作的一般解进行比较,则Kok08的方程式大部分会重复KC07的方程式,只是Kok08使用理想的稀溶液近似法。如果纠正了Kok08中的错误,则临界半径和过饱和度之间的差异不会超过16-18%,这代表了理想的稀溶液近似值的误差。如果在KC07之后修改Kok08方案以解决解决方案的不理想问题,则与KC07的差异不超过0.4-1%。

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