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APATITE-(CaOH) IN THE FOSSIL BAT GUANO DEPOSIT FROM THE 'DRY' CIOCLOVINA CAVE, SUREANU MOUNTAINS, ROMANIA: REPLY

机译:罗马尼亚苏雷亚努山“干燥”乔科维纳洞化石BAT GUANO沉积物中的磷灰石-(CaOH):答复

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In a recent paper, Dumitras et al. (2008) described apatite-(CaOH) from the "dry" Cioclovina Cave, in the Sureanu Mountains, Romania. The paper, submitted to the journal in February 2007, ignored, as a matter of course, the intention of Onac & Effenberger (2007) and Qnta Panzaru & Onac (2008) to re-examine the berlinite samples claimed to be taken from the cave. This fact, as well as other critical opinions about the previous description by Onac et al. (2002, 2005) and Onac & White (2003) of some "exotic" mineral species such as berlinite, burbankite, churchite-(Y), ellestadite-(OH), ellestadite-(Cl), foggite, paratacamite, collinsite and sampleite, led to the Discussion by Onac & Effenberger presented above. The authors stated that "the list of references given by Dumitras et al. (2008) is incomplete, resulting in an incorrect overall statement". The list was, however, as complete as possible when our paper was conceived, and respected the principles of the concision and relevance, which restrict the quotations in a paper to the relevant ones for the paper itself. The paper of Dumitrag et al. (2008) thoroughly described a quite common apatite-(CaOH), with no peculiar characteristics as compared with other apatite -(CaOH) sampled from other cave occurrences. Briefly, the chemical pattern of apatite-(CaOH) from the "dry" Cioclovina Cave, as well as the patterns of all other Ca phosphates from the cave (i.e., brushite and ardealite) does not fit with the presence in the association of (REE+Y)-bearine species such as churchite-(Y) or burbankite mentioned by Onac et al. (2002, 2005) and Onac & White (2003), or with high-temperature species such as berlinite or ellestadite-(OH) mentioned by Onac et al. (2006) and Onac & Effenberger (2007).
机译:在最近的论文中,Dumitras等人。 (2008年)描述了罗马尼亚苏里安努山脉“干燥”的Cioclovina洞穴中的磷灰石(CaOH)。该论文于2007年2月提交给该期刊,但理所当然地忽略了Onac&Effenberger(2007)和Qnta Panzaru&Onac(2008)重新检查据称是从该洞穴中获取的berlinite样品的意图。 。这个事实,以及对Onac等人先前描述的其他批评意见。 (2002,2005)和Onac&White(2003)的一些“外来”矿物物种,例如:berlinite,burbankite,chiteite-(Y),ellestadite-(OH),elestadite-(Cl),雾石,滑石粉,菱铁矿和样品,导致了上述Onac&Effenberger的讨论。作者指出“ Dumitras等人(2008)给出的参考文献清单不完整,导致总体陈述不正确”。但是,在构思我们的论文时,清单尽可能完整,并尊重简洁和相关性的原则,这些原则将论文中的引文限制为与论文本身相关的引文。 Dumitrag等人的论文。 (2008年)彻底描述了一种非常常见的磷灰石-(CaOH),与从其他洞穴事件中采样的其他磷灰石-(CaOH)相比,没有特殊的特征。简而言之,来自“干燥” Cioclovina洞穴的磷灰石-(CaOH)的化学模式,以及来自该洞穴的所有其他磷酸钙的模式(即,透钙磷石和埃迪石)与存在以下情况不符: REE + Y)-精氨酸类,例如Onac等人提到的教堂岩((Y)或渗碳石)。 (2002,2005)和Onac&White(2003),或Onac等人提到的高温物种,例如berlinite或ellestadite-(OH)。 (2006)和Onac&Effenberger(2007)。

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